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	<title>Comments on: Book Review:  The Blue Zones</title>
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	<description>Ruminations on Weight Loss, Health, and Longevity Via the Mediterranean Diet</description>
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		<title>By: isaac</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-17108</link>
		<author>isaac</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>From data in lower animals, I'd agree that longevity is more than 25% genetic.  I have to profess ignorance at twin studies.  I'm a bit surprised that it'd be as low as 25%, though.

I think that #5 has probably been understudied and understated in western science, hence the data is somewhat lacking.  I seem to recall some small but interesting studies looking at patients post MI and correlating survival with the intent of social contact, ie those who had regular social events be it a bridge club, weekly lunch with friends, etc.  It seemed to suggest those that had something and someone to look forward to, did better over time.  I can't recall the source right now, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From data in lower animals, I&#8217;d agree that longevity is more than 25% genetic.  I have to profess ignorance at twin studies.  I&#8217;m a bit surprised that it&#8217;d be as low as 25%, though.</p>
<p>I think that #5 has probably been understudied and understated in western science, hence the data is somewhat lacking.  I seem to recall some small but interesting studies looking at patients post MI and correlating survival with the intent of social contact, ie those who had regular social events be it a bridge club, weekly lunch with friends, etc.  It seemed to suggest those that had something and someone to look forward to, did better over time.  I can&#8217;t recall the source right now, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Parker, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-17113</link>
		<author>Steve Parker, M.D.</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Your comment reminds me that when one partner in an older couple dies, the other is often not far behind.  Or does it only seem that way?  I'm sure that's been studied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment reminds me that when one partner in an older couple dies, the other is often not far behind.  Or does it only seem that way?  I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s been studied.</p>
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		<title>By: T.W. Anderson</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-17124</link>
		<author>T.W. Anderson</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-17124</guid>
					<description>It's an interesting concept (the elderly couples who seem to pass within months of each other). 

I'm no medical professional, but from the reading I've done on the subject over the past year or so, a plant-based diet with low levels of meat intake and plenty of raw foods almost always seems to contribute to a longer life span and lower levels of obesity + lower levels of disease compared to Western, developed countries where the diets are high in processed foods and large quantities of meat. 

Interestingly enough, the results almost always seem to favor diets like the Mediterranean Diet and places like Norway and Japan, where their diets are high in vegetables and raw foods, and their main meat intake is from fish. 

I know myself personally...I have almost cut red meat completely out of my diet. Being a born-and-raised redneck who grew up on a dairy farm in the Midwest, I never thought I'd see the day, but these days the only meat I consume is either fish or chicken. I might eat pork once every 3-4 months, and the same with red meat. I can't speak for anything other than the "how" I feel, because I feel a lot "lighter" than I used to. I am far more "regular" than I ever used to be, I have higher levels of energy, and I find my concentration and sex drive through the roof. How much of that is contributed to regular exercise and healthy living I have no idea, but I very much believe in positive thinking combined with healthy living. Stress just has so many downsides...what's the point?

Another great read :) Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting concept (the elderly couples who seem to pass within months of each other). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m no medical professional, but from the reading I&#8217;ve done on the subject over the past year or so, a plant-based diet with low levels of meat intake and plenty of raw foods almost always seems to contribute to a longer life span and lower levels of obesity + lower levels of disease compared to Western, developed countries where the diets are high in processed foods and large quantities of meat. </p>
<p>Interestingly enough, the results almost always seem to favor diets like the Mediterranean Diet and places like Norway and Japan, where their diets are high in vegetables and raw foods, and their main meat intake is from fish. </p>
<p>I know myself personally&#8230;I have almost cut red meat completely out of my diet. Being a born-and-raised redneck who grew up on a dairy farm in the Midwest, I never thought I&#8217;d see the day, but these days the only meat I consume is either fish or chicken. I might eat pork once every 3-4 months, and the same with red meat. I can&#8217;t speak for anything other than the &#8220;how&#8221; I feel, because I feel a lot &#8220;lighter&#8221; than I used to. I am far more &#8220;regular&#8221; than I ever used to be, I have higher levels of energy, and I find my concentration and sex drive through the roof. How much of that is contributed to regular exercise and healthy living I have no idea, but I very much believe in positive thinking combined with healthy living. Stress just has so many downsides&#8230;what&#8217;s the point?</p>
<p>Another great read <img src='http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Parker, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-17136</link>
		<author>Steve Parker, M.D.</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-17136</guid>
					<description>I've not studied the health effects of raw foods, specifically.  They are a hot trend in the U.S. for the last several years.

In all the survey-based observational studies trying to associate health outcomes with diet, I bet they didn't ask whether vegetables and fruits were cooked or not.  Just "how many servings of vegetables do you eat in a typical week?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not studied the health effects of raw foods, specifically.  They are a hot trend in the U.S. for the last several years.</p>
<p>In all the survey-based observational studies trying to associate health outcomes with diet, I bet they didn&#8217;t ask whether vegetables and fruits were cooked or not.  Just &#8220;how many servings of vegetables do you eat in a typical week?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-17240</link>
		<author>Ken</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>to cook or not to cook? AFAIK, when you cook you destroy some of the more fragile healthful molecules. But if you don't cook, then you don't absorb nearly as much of the other nutrition. After all, we can't break down the cellulose cell-wall that seals off the healthful contents.

So you have to chew and chew like a cow, or maybe use some electric powered device to try and burst open every plant cell.

Another thing I wonder: have we become too big (height-wise especially) to exist on the same type of diet that our ancestors did for millions of years at much smaller body size?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to cook or not to cook? AFAIK, when you cook you destroy some of the more fragile healthful molecules. But if you don&#8217;t cook, then you don&#8217;t absorb nearly as much of the other nutrition. After all, we can&#8217;t break down the cellulose cell-wall that seals off the healthful contents.</p>
<p>So you have to chew and chew like a cow, or maybe use some electric powered device to try and burst open every plant cell.</p>
<p>Another thing I wonder: have we become too big (height-wise especially) to exist on the same type of diet that our ancestors did for millions of years at much smaller body size?</p>
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		<title>By: LynneP</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-20225</link>
		<author>LynneP</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 02:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-20225</guid>
					<description>I loved The Blue Zones by Dan Buettner.  You can also watch the Blue Zone special on Ikaria with Anderson Cooper via the internet.  

One thing I find interesting is that many in the Mediterranean consume milk, yogurt and cheese made from goat and sheep.  We can assume that most of these dairy products are not homogenzied nor pastuerized.  Of course they aren't laden with antibiotics, estrogen or growth hormones either.  Naturally, these animals graze on grass and wild greens. 

Heart disease is lower in the Mediterranean countries, yet most all consume some type of dairy.  One could say, "they consume in moderation."  What is moderation?  Three times a day?  Once a day?  If saturated dairy fat is the king of evil, why do these people not have plaqued arteries?  Is it because their dairy is not pastuerized?  Is it the Omega-3's in the product?  Is it the chemical composition of goat and sheep milk versus cow's milk?

I know it's popular to recommend low-fat or nonfat dairy on Mediterranean diets, but people on those countries do not consume low-fat or nonfat dairy.  The often make their own yogurt, yogurt cheese and drink raw milk.  In some of countries (Lebanon and Greece), they use butter made from cow's milk as well.  Though it's common to "finish" dishes with a pour of olive oil, butter is used in many dishes as well.

To me, it's very perplexing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved The Blue Zones by Dan Buettner.  You can also watch the Blue Zone special on Ikaria with Anderson Cooper via the internet.  </p>
<p>One thing I find interesting is that many in the Mediterranean consume milk, yogurt and cheese made from goat and sheep.  We can assume that most of these dairy products are not homogenzied nor pastuerized.  Of course they aren&#8217;t laden with antibiotics, estrogen or growth hormones either.  Naturally, these animals graze on grass and wild greens. </p>
<p>Heart disease is lower in the Mediterranean countries, yet most all consume some type of dairy.  One could say, &#8220;they consume in moderation.&#8221;  What is moderation?  Three times a day?  Once a day?  If saturated dairy fat is the king of evil, why do these people not have plaqued arteries?  Is it because their dairy is not pastuerized?  Is it the Omega-3&#8217;s in the product?  Is it the chemical composition of goat and sheep milk versus cow&#8217;s milk?</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s popular to recommend low-fat or nonfat dairy on Mediterranean diets, but people on those countries do not consume low-fat or nonfat dairy.  The often make their own yogurt, yogurt cheese and drink raw milk.  In some of countries (Lebanon and Greece), they use butter made from cow&#8217;s milk as well.  Though it&#8217;s common to &#8220;finish&#8221; dishes with a pour of olive oil, butter is used in many dishes as well.</p>
<p>To me, it&#8217;s very perplexing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Parker, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-20273</link>
		<author>Steve Parker, M.D.</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 05:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>LynnP-

It seems to me that saturated fats and total fat intake have been unfairly demonized.  I researched this issue over 80 hours last year and summarized my findings at the NutritionData Heart Health Blog:

http://blog/nutritiondata.com/heart_health_blog/2009/07/saturated-fats-and-cardiovascular-health.html

The first inkling that the traditional Mediterranean diet was healthy came from data based on the eating of those in the region in the 1950s and 1960s.  They were not eating the reduced-fat versions of food so common today (common in the U.S., anyway).

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LynnP-</p>
<p>It seems to me that saturated fats and total fat intake have been unfairly demonized.  I researched this issue over 80 hours last year and summarized my findings at the NutritionData Heart Health Blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog/nutritiondata.com/heart_health_blog/2009/07/saturated-fats-and-cardiovascular-health.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog/nutritiondata.com/heart_health_blog/2009/07/saturated-fats-and-cardiovascular-health.html</a></p>
<p>The first inkling that the traditional Mediterranean diet was healthy came from data based on the eating of those in the region in the 1950s and 1960s.  They were not eating the reduced-fat versions of food so common today (common in the U.S., anyway).</p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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		<title>By: LynneP</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-20298</link>
		<author>LynneP</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Dr. Steve -

I just changed my own diet to a low-carb sort of Mediterranean diet.  I'm using plain Fage yogurt (the 2% as I haven't found full-fat yet) and 4% cottage cheese as my main proteins (I really don't care for meat, poultry and fish that much), along with lots of salads dressed with lemon juice and olive oil, nuts, seeds, and some low-glycemic fruits.

Type II Diabetes and heart disease are both prevelant in my family.  I believe that removing the "omentum" fat that I have and continuing to exercise is about the best I can do for myself.  I thought about the McDougall or Esselstyn plan but I'm not sure about the no added fat idea.  It seems to work for some people but I'd worry about triglycerides rising...though I suppose blood lipids improve with weight loss on any diet.

I just wonder if the best diet/lifestyle is one that is low enough in calories to maintain a lower bodyfat (no omentum fat to speak of), plenty of moderate exercise, lots of activity and a positive attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Steve -</p>
<p>I just changed my own diet to a low-carb sort of Mediterranean diet.  I&#8217;m using plain Fage yogurt (the 2% as I haven&#8217;t found full-fat yet) and 4% cottage cheese as my main proteins (I really don&#8217;t care for meat, poultry and fish that much), along with lots of salads dressed with lemon juice and olive oil, nuts, seeds, and some low-glycemic fruits.</p>
<p>Type II Diabetes and heart disease are both prevelant in my family.  I believe that removing the &#8220;omentum&#8221; fat that I have and continuing to exercise is about the best I can do for myself.  I thought about the McDougall or Esselstyn plan but I&#8217;m not sure about the no added fat idea.  It seems to work for some people but I&#8217;d worry about triglycerides rising&#8230;though I suppose blood lipids improve with weight loss on any diet.</p>
<p>I just wonder if the best diet/lifestyle is one that is low enough in calories to maintain a lower bodyfat (no omentum fat to speak of), plenty of moderate exercise, lots of activity and a positive attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Parker, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/12/18/book-review-the-blue-zones/#comment-20470</link>
		<author>Steve Parker, M.D.</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>LynneP, thanks for pointing out the bad link above.  I can't get it to work.  Here's the same information:

http://advancemediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/07/06/are-saturated-fats-really-all-that-bad/

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LynneP, thanks for pointing out the bad link above.  I can&#8217;t get it to work.  Here&#8217;s the same information:</p>
<p><a href="http://advancemediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/07/06/are-saturated-fats-really-all-that-bad/" rel="nofollow">http://advancemediterraneandiet.com/blog/2009/07/06/are-saturated-fats-really-all-that-bad/</a></p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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